Comentarios en: Check call line: Cuando ser pasivo es rentable http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable Jugador profesional de poker Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:57:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= Por: rice http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1194 rice Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:09:04 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1194 Parece ser que Allen Cunningham sí que sabe castellano y que además lee este blog utilizándolo contra Jamie Gold ;)))) Este es el link de youtube (la mano dura 5 minutos): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St-hGyCPQAA Parece ser que Allen Cunningham sí que sabe castellano y que además lee este blog utilizándolo contra Jamie Gold ;))))

Este es el link de youtube (la mano dura 5 minutos):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St-hGyCPQAA

]]> Por: Man http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1188 Man Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:20:14 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1188 Alucino.. Supongo que Lady_Swan piensa que tienes éxito por la misma razón que yo..porque eres el puto amo :) Saludos Alucino..

Supongo que Lady_Swan piensa que tienes éxito por la misma razón que yo..porque eres el puto amo :)

Saludos

]]> Por: Raul http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1187 Raul Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:16:51 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1187 Si, es un buen jugador (o jugadora) y el problema es que no se pueden sentar juntos. Un saludo! Si, es un buen jugador (o jugadora) y el problema es que no se pueden sentar juntos.

Un saludo!

]]> Por: el rata http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1186 el rata Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:55:00 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1186 un offtopic: raul, tengo entendido que compartes piso con otros jugadores de poker online. Puede haber algún problema por que varias cuentas jueguen desde la misma IP? un offtopic: raul, tengo entendido que compartes piso con otros jugadores de poker online. Puede haber algún problema por que varias cuentas jueguen desde la misma IP?

]]> Por: Jorge http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1185 Jorge Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:52:55 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1185 No parece tonta Lady_Swan, no. Es ganadora en esos niveles, verdad??? Un saludo No parece tonta Lady_Swan, no.

Es ganadora en esos niveles, verdad???

Un saludo

]]> Por: Lady_Swan http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1184 Lady_Swan Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:42:07 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1184 You are successfull, Raul, b/c your opponents are multitablers. They don't research your game and treat you as usual player (short-mid-stacker) and use standard nit-play. But you are a unique player with unique strategy. So we make a lot of mistakes against your ranges. You are successfull, Raul, b/c your opponents are multitablers. They don’t research your game and treat you as usual player (short-mid-stacker) and use standard nit-play. But you are a unique player with unique strategy. So we make a lot of mistakes against your ranges.

]]> Por: Raúl http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1183 Raúl Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:51:23 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1183 Well i dont think u are stupid, the single fact that u search info about a short (or midstacker) is just enough to show that u arent bad. Indeed, that u think that im opening widely is bad for me. I was able to profitabily open 100% against some players, but i cant open 50% against good ones. I agree that KQ would be better than J9 in this spot. But i dont think before this hand you would be pushing me often with hands like QX or TT to make the calling gap between both calling hands so big. What makes much better KQ there is that i would very often win when u check turn or river. In the other hand, u re now much likely to push this river with a weaker hand, and obviosly KQ is better than J9 in this board.By the way i wasent so happy. But i couldnt find a better line to play this hand. What makes you think im succesfull? Thanks for posting Well i dont think u are stupid, the single fact that u search info about a short (or midstacker) is just enough to show that u arent bad. Indeed, that u think that im opening widely is bad for me. I was able to profitabily open 100% against some players, but i cant open 50% against good ones.

I agree that KQ would be better than J9 in this spot. But i dont think before this hand you would be pushing me often with hands like QX or TT to make the calling gap between both calling hands so big. What makes much better KQ there is that i would very often win when u check turn or river.

In the other hand, u re now much likely to push this river with a weaker hand, and obviosly KQ is better than J9 in this board.By the way i wasent so happy. But i couldnt find a better line to play this hand.

What makes you think im succesfull?

Thanks for posting

]]> Por: Lady_Swan http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1182 Lady_Swan Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:39:13 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1182 I think you are generally right, Raul. But it is wrong if you think that calling with 9's equals to calling with second pair in this hand (against me). Not all blufcatchers are equal. Hero shows [ Jh Js ]two pairs Jacks and Threes . Lady_Swan shows [ 7h 9h ]a pair of Threes . Lady_Swan wins $447 USD from side pot #1 with a pair of Threes . Hero wins $2,226 USD from the main pot with two pairs Jacks and Threes . I would play the same way, I think (if I would a hero). But I woudn't be so happy as you while calling this )). I think, it is so-so. Probably +EV, but not a great one. If not JJ, but TT, I wouldn't say calling is good )). If you think like Raul, that 88=99=TT=JJ=KQ against me... I don't think it is true ). I'm not a maniac bluffer (in obvious spots) as some guys think and value firing a little lighter )). No, Raul, I don't know Spanish. I just was looking something about you. You are a very and very successfull short-mid-stacker )). Although I don't think that opening 50% of hands is very good )), but against stupid opponents as we are, it is fine and works well ) I think you are generally right, Raul. But it is wrong if you think that calling with 9′s equals to calling with second pair in this hand (against me). Not all blufcatchers are equal.

Hero shows [ Jh Js ]two pairs Jacks and Threes .
Lady_Swan shows [ 7h 9h ]a pair of Threes .
Lady_Swan wins $447 USD from side pot #1 with a pair of Threes .
Hero wins $2,226 USD from the main pot with two pairs Jacks and Threes .

I would play the same way, I think (if I would a hero). But I woudn’t be so happy as you while calling this )). I think, it is so-so. Probably +EV, but not a great one. If not JJ, but TT, I wouldn’t say calling is good )). If you think like Raul, that 88=99=TT=JJ=KQ against me… I don’t think it is true ). I’m not a maniac bluffer (in obvious spots) as some guys think and value firing a little lighter )).

No, Raul, I don’t know Spanish. I just was looking something about you. You are a very and very successfull short-mid-stacker )). Although I don’t think that opening 50% of hands is very good )), but against stupid opponents as we are, it is fine and works well )

]]> Por: Raul http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1181 Raul Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:20:15 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1181 La mano de ejemplo e sun tanto distinta ya que su rango preflop podria ser mas estrecho, y AA, KK (ademas de QQ y posiblemente incluso AK o KQ) son manos que encajarian con su secuencia de bets (despues de todo, tu no puedes tener AA, KK o QQ y solo le preocupa AQ). Si su rango preflop es muy amplio en esta situacion las cosas mejoran, pero en caso contrario es mucho mas peligrosa. Por otro lado, es cierto que este/estos jugadores van a aprender. Pero en cualquier caso, estoy dificultando un arma en su arsenal y mejorando mis resultados con manos mediocres en la SB: Tmb yo puedo check callear algunas monster postflop para sacar partido del hecho que el apueste bluffs y values medios.Al final, en la situacion de equilibrio, he conseguido disminuir apreciablemente su % de faroles totales. Eso ya es algo intrínsecamente bueno (digamos que he dejado de ser explotable de una forma) La mano de ejemplo e sun tanto distinta ya que su rango preflop podria ser mas estrecho, y AA, KK (ademas de QQ y posiblemente incluso AK o KQ) son manos que encajarian con su secuencia de bets (despues de todo, tu no puedes tener AA, KK o QQ y solo le preocupa AQ). Si su rango preflop es muy amplio en esta situacion las cosas mejoran, pero en caso contrario es mucho mas peligrosa.

Por otro lado, es cierto que este/estos jugadores van a aprender. Pero en cualquier caso, estoy dificultando un arma en su arsenal y mejorando mis resultados con manos mediocres en la SB: Tmb yo puedo check callear algunas monster postflop para sacar partido del hecho que el apueste bluffs y values medios.Al final, en la situacion de equilibrio, he conseguido disminuir apreciablemente su % de faroles totales. Eso ya es algo intrínsecamente bueno (digamos que he dejado de ser explotable de una forma)

]]> Por: rauliano http://www.raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/comment-page-1#comment-1180 rauliano Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:42:27 +0000 http://raulmestre.com/anotaciones/check-call-line-cuando-ser-pasivo-es-rentable/#comment-1180 que uno dice con un cañon trataria de atraparme.Seguro para que resulte uno debe jugar tambien los pares de igual forma o sea con la apariencia de 3barrel sin intentar atrapar sino ya sabes te ponen en eso de "weak means strong and strong means weak" que uno dice con un cañon trataria de atraparme.Seguro para que resulte uno debe jugar tambien los pares de igual forma o sea con la apariencia de 3barrel sin intentar atrapar sino ya sabes te ponen en eso de “weak means strong and strong means weak”

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